The way I see it, the United States are big enough to run their own Intelligence. Same with Russia and China. These countries don't have to depend on the World Health Organisation or other UN agencies to tell them or advice them. In fact, the US would be the first to thumb their nose at these bodies. Thus, the negligence and responsibility for their own country are all theirs and theirs alone. They had months to prepare and they botched it.
When I posted my say in one of the Whatsapp chat groups, replies were many in response to my message and other people's too. They are here in chronological order so that they make sense when reading through. I've only removed the irrelevant comments:
From US point of view, this crisis puts them in a very bad light and compares them unfavorably to a communist country. Even if nobody is seriously claiming that "communist good, democracy bad" they sendiri terasa...Hence the desperate attempt to change the narrative by painting China in a bad light... this is what unites the Republicans (who want to deflect from Trump's mishandling) and the mainstream media like NYT/WaPo. It's a bit like the cold war space race, Fischer-Spassky etc.
I believe that regardless of whatever aids China give now, when this is over, we will the same old Anti China, US must be number 1 supporters coming out.
They believe that this is an extention of the Cold War which they must win. China will have to be more friendly with the Europeans n just let them be. In the process, China will change n be more open n tolerant.
Many may not trust China just because of one keyword......Communist
Its a battle of ideology. But China is not really communist anymore. Its now more of democracy vs a one party rule.
Americans are indoctrinated from young that communism is bad. It's similar to religious beliefs.
Look at India.so sad. China will be like this if its democratic. But I guess those US supporters don t give a shit.
The problem is they trusted t China figures in t 1st place. Paying t price now
Intelligence failed.
No one really trust china data from gdp, inflation, security, military... somehow big nations have theirs own system to counter. Even SG has system on MY
Not trusting China is one thing. Not being prepared for an outbreak is another. Moreover, since people were so sceptical of China's numbers in the beginning, they should have been even more prepared at that time
That is the false narrative they are trying to paint to deflect from their own incompetence. Even just basing on China's official figures from Wuhan itself is alarming enough to take strong action. Heck, even we of all countries are handling this crisis wayyy better than the US.
Am talking ab t West generally, not just t US. Too many had bn converted, as in MSIA, into believing t China figures.
Brother, even assuming that we take the China numbers in the beginning in Jan at face value, the way the numbers rose exponentially is enough to raise alarms in all countries. The argument that "China hid the true numbers that's why all other nations were not alarmed" doesn't hold water.
80k infected and 3k died still not alarming? with the numbers raise so fast even in total lockdown. We better hope China dont relapse. otherwise we all really gg.. no face mask, no ventilator, no medicine
It's quite obvious the West has failed in its response, so don't flog a dead horse. Now, they hv to take stock of all factors.
The thing is, the West IS trying to flog a dead horse... worse still, claiming the horse is killed by someone else... they are the only ones keeping this discussion alive and not let it rest
The discussion about figures can be had, but doing that now while their countries are being engulfed makes people question their motive and priorities. In any case, official figures are always going to be up for debate... for one, they will never be accurate as it depends how many tests are done... also, if dead people are not post-humously tested because they prioritize testing ppl still alive, is that cover up?? What is much more important is the exponential spread of the disease. Even to lay-people like us, it is already so obvious it was going to be a problem.
Yup. Just like blaming the firefighter for not raising the alarm when the forest fire was small n thereby delay by 2 days. And then you sit on the car porch for 2 weeks drinking Kool aid while the forest fire is coming your way.
The worst is... there are even some people now calling for China to make reparations... they don't know how awful this sounds with the century of humiliation
Whether or not China cover up is up to argument and needs to be assessed based on evidence. But my point is, the official numbers they released since Jan and the way they rose, should have prompted other governments to take more stringent measures. Or at least be prepared earlier when the numbers do rise. We saw that in Korea, Japan, Sg, Taiwan and HK.
That is not the right analogy... more like blaming the neighbor for not telling you how badly his house got burnt.
Or not telling you when his stove caught fire. But only when his whole kitchen was on fire.. 😆
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